OKTAR BABUNA: Good evening dear viewers. We are continuing our program. We have very valuable guests, insha'Allah. Rabbi Yeshayahu Hollander; he is the member of the Sanhedrin the Rabbinical Court and associate Justice on the Jerusalem Court for Issues of Bnei Noah. He also teaches in a religion school. Our other guest is Rabbi Ben Abrahamson; he is a historian and he has been serving as the consultant at Jerusalem Rabbinical Court on matters about Islam since 2004. Furthermore he is the Director of the Committee for Historical Research in Islam and Judaism. Welcome. Please go on Master.

ADNAN OKTAR: Welcome to both of you.

RABBI BEN ABRAHAMSON: Insha'Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: We love you all very much. Insha'Allah there will be peace in the region, there will be beauties and love. You are a trust to us from the Prophet Abraham (pbuh), the Prophet Moses (pbuh). Palestinians are the children of the Prophet Ishmael (pbuh) and you are the children of the Prophet Israel(pbuh), the Prophet Jacob (pbuh). We will not accept artificial fights and artificial plots by no manner of means. The region will turn into a place in which peace, beauty, goodness and pleasantness prevail. Insha'Allah the promises of the Torah, the promises of the Qur'an, the promises of our Prophet (saas) will all be realized. The artificial commotion will completely end insha'Allah. Allah has promised that to us. We are in the times of the Messiah, we are in the time of the King Messiah (pbuh), the Moshiach. Insha'Allah we will altogether live by this pleasantness, this goodness. These are all the portents of the appearance of the King Messiah, Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh).

Well, let us first ask this to our guests here; does the Torah have beautiful teachings for us for the prevalance of peace and brotherhood in the region?

RABBI YESHAYAHU HOLLANDER: In the Torah, the Tanakh describes the time to come -which is hopefully our time-and many Prophets have described this time in metaphor and also in simple language. And here we have before us, a series of quotes which Mr. Oktar prepared [and which] are relating to the time of Messiah which we hope is coming upon us now, very soon.

ADNAN OKTAR:Let us hear these from your mouth, could you please read and explain them to us?

RABBI YESHAYAHU HOLLANDER: So we start with a quotation from Zechariah. Zechariah Chapter 9:10. "I will take away the chariots… and the battle bow will be broken... He [King Messiah] will proclaim peace to the nations."

And similarly Ezekiel said; [Ezekiel 39:9-10] "Burn them [the weapons] up - the small shields and the large shields, the bows and arrows, the war clubs and the spears... They will use them for fuel... declares the Sovereign Lord." We will not need weapons anymore, we will not want and we will not need. No one will want them so no one will need them.

Micah, similar to Isaiah, said; "In the last days... He [the Lord]... will settle disputes for many peoples... Nations will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore. Every man will sit under his own vine and under his own fig tree, and no one will make them afraid." [Micah, 4:1-4] That is quite different than it is today yes, but it has to change soon.

"Bow and sword and battle I will abolish from the land, so that all may lie down in safety," in Hosea. [Hosea, 2:18]

"And in that time," the time of the Moshiach, soon here, "There will be neither famine, nor war, neither envy nor strife. All good things will be bestowed in abundance, and all delicacies will be accessible like dust." In Mishnah Torah, in the section dealing with the Laws of Kings, Maimonides wrote that we are to understand the "Wolf living with the Lamb" and similar phrases, metaphorically; that there will be no change in nature, wolves will still eat lambs when they can, but the metaphor means that people will not try to subjugate one another, people will be free. As the Qur'an says "There is no coercion in religion", so there will be no coercion of any nation by another nation.

ADNAN OKTAR: Masha'Allah. Now you read what our Master has explained in Turkish.

OKTAR BABUNA: The wars and violence coming to an end in the time of the King Messiah. Rabbi Hollander has read the quotes about peace from the Torah. "I will take away the chariots... and the battle bow will be broken... He [King Messiah] will proclaim peace to the nations." Zechariah Chapter 9:10.

ADNAN OKTAR: So here in these quotes it is said that the armaments will be stopped. Explain it to us a little bit, interpret it for us.

OKTAR BABUNA: Armaments will be stopped, all weapons will be taken out of use, insha'Allah. And the King Messiah, Hazrat Mahdi (pbuh) will bring peace to the nations. Peace will come to the whole world.

ADNAN OKTAR: To the whole world, that is good.

OKTAR BABUNA: "Burn the