Andy Cohen tries not to meddle too much in the lives of Bravo reality stars. But he’s making one opinion clear about the most recent season of Southern Charm: He wished Thomas Ravenel would break up with Ashley Jacobs! A behind-the-scenes video revealed all of Andy’s true feelings about the cast. Watch the video above.

Andy kept it real in the backstage footage. When asked who he was rooting for the most during the fifth season, first he listed cast members Craig Conover and Kathryn Dennis. But then he got a little more controversial.

“I was rooting for Thomas to break up with Ashley,” he said. Then he made a sheepish face, as if he knew he wasn’t supposed to say that.

He didn’t elaborate on why he wanted this to happen, but Southern Charm fans can probably figure it out. Ashley had been a contentious figure all season. On one episode, Thomas’ friend Patricia Altschul accused Ashley of being a gold digger.

During the finale, Thomas’ ex and baby mama Kathryn accused Ashley of being an escort. Ashley said that Kathryn was “just an egg donor” and recounted how her kids were taken away in 2016 while she was in rehab. “Someday they are going to want to know why,” she said, savagely. Thomas ended up apologizing for not defending Kathryn in the moment.

“I should have explained to Ashley what Kathryn had suffered,” he said. Kathryn recently passed multiple drug tests in her attempt to win full custody of their kids.

Andy also explained that he thought the Thomas-Kathryn relationship has been the most memorable part of the show. This season, he said, was the most dramatic yet. “I’ve been stunned,” he added. “Mostly by Ashley.”