Caroline Sephton and Jaynie Ross at Empathy North West CIC, based in Wigan, talk about their services and thank fund-raiser Nigel Brookwell for his donation after he competed a charity challenge 'Nige's Knackered Knees' pub crawl, literally crawling on his hand and knees from Wigan to Standish, stopping at pubs on the way, raising awareness of the CIC, he raised £6,600.