Jinger Duggar Vuolo and her husband Jeremy have been in the news a lot lately, namely for being the biggest names in the "19 Kids and Counting" family to speak out against the upbringing. That growing-up experience led Jinger to feel a pervasive sense of “shame” and led her brother Josh Duggar to ultimately end up in jail after being found guilty on child pornography charges. It wasn’t easy writing a book about her experiences. It wasn’t easy speaking out against her brother, but now the married couple is being honest about exactly why they felt it was the right thing to do.

In a lengthy interview touching on a variety of topics, one thing Jinger and Jeremy honed in on over and over again was speaking out even though it was difficult. Growing up, Jinger said her parents pushed having a good heart, but she also noted, “I think you see even within that setting the performance-based thing.” She and her husband candidly informed Allie Beth Stuckey that you can see this with Josh. How outwardly he looked like a follower of Christ but there was a whole other side to her eldest brother that made him two-faced.