Detangling IHOPKC - Crossroads of John Wimber and Bob Jones - Episode 195 Branham Research Podcast
William Branham Historical Research
2024-09-30
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This podcast episode delves into the entangled connections between the International House of Prayer Kansas City (IHOPKC), the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), and figures like William Branham, John Wimber, and Bob Jones. The discussion kicks off with an exploration of the complex history and the difficulties in separating truth from deception in these movements. The hosts, John Collins and Brantley Smith, emphasize the challenges of discerning individuals’ intentions—whether they were misguided, manipulated, or predators—while also addressing their contributions to the movement. They offer insight into the cult-like behavior that pervades these organizations, particularly focusing on spiritual abuse and its correlation with more egregious misconduct.
A key segment of the episode scrutinizes the roles of John Wimber, Mike Bickle, Paul Cain, and Bob Jones, discussing their influence on the charismatic movement and the controversial behaviors that were often shielded or overlooked. The episode highlights Wimber’s role in addressing Bob Jones’ abuse, illustrating Wimber’s transparent and strict approach to discipline in comparison to other leaders. Ultimately, the podcast paints a picture of a religious landscape rife with abuse of power, secrecy, and the gray areas between genuine faith and manipulation.
00:00 Introduction
05:00 Detangling IHOPKC and the NAR
10:00 Historical connections to William Branham and adjacent movements
15:00 John Wimber’s revolutionary role and mistakes
23:00 Addressing the abusive culture in IHOP and the cult-like behaviors
30:00 Bob Jones, his rise to power, and connections to Mike Bickle
38:00 The Kansas City Prophets and questionable prophetic practices
45:00 John Wimber’s discipline of Bob Jones and transparency
50:00 Power abuse in charismatic movements and spiritual manipulation
55:00 Reflections on leadership, accountability, and healing
1:00:05 Closing remarks on learning from history
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Support the show:
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Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts:
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Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:
Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962
Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K
This podcast episode delves into the entangled connections between the International House of Prayer Kansas City (IHOPKC), the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), and figures like William Branham, John Wimber, and Bob Jones. The discussion kicks off with an exploration of the complex history and the difficulties in separating truth from deception in these movements. The hosts, John Collins and Brantley Smith, emphasize the challenges of discerning individuals’ intentions—whether they were misguided, manipulated, or predators—while also addressing their contributions to the movement. They offer insight into the cult-like behavior that pervades these organizations, particularly focusing on spiritual abuse and its correlation with more egregious misconduct.
A key segment of the episode scrutinizes the roles of John Wimber, Mike Bickle, Paul Cain, and Bob Jones, discussing their influence on the charismatic movement and the controversial behaviors that were often shielded or overlooked. The episode highlights Wimber’s role in addressing Bob Jones’ abuse, illustrating Wimber’s transparent and strict approach to discipline in comparison to other leaders. Ultimately, the podcast paints a picture of a religious landscape rife with abuse of power, secrecy, and the gray areas between genuine faith and manipulation.
00:00 Introduction
05:00 Detangling IHOPKC and the NAR
10:00 Historical connections to William Branham and adjacent movements
15:00 John Wimber’s revolutionary role and mistakes
23:00 Addressing the abusive culture in IHOP and the cult-like behaviors
30:00 Bob Jones, his rise to power, and connections to Mike Bickle
38:00 The Kansas City Prophets and questionable prophetic practices
45:00 John Wimber’s discipline of Bob Jones and transparency
50:00 Power abuse in charismatic movements and spiritual manipulation
55:00 Reflections on leadership, accountability, and healing
1:00:05 Closing remarks on learning from history
______________________
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