John Wimber: False Teacher? - Charismania - Episode 191 William Branham Historical Research Podcast
William Branham Historical Research
2024-09-23
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Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:
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Cynthia's Website:
https://cynthiaartish.com/
John invites Cynthia Artish to kick off a new series on "Charismania," starting with the research into John Wimber and his influence on Charismatic Christianity. We dive into the intersections between William Branham's religious movement and its influence on other groups like the International House of Prayer (IHOP) and John Wimber's role in shaping modern charismatic movements. Cynthia shares her personal experiences as a musician playing for John Wimber's band, offering insight into Wimber’s character and the cult of personality that developed around him. The conversation explores key themes such as indoctrination, manipulation of emotions in religious settings, and the blending of church and business models in evangelicalism. We also critically analyze how Wimber's theology influenced contemporary movements like the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), pointing to dangerous deviations from traditional Christian teaching.
Another major point of discussion is the emotional manipulation tactics often seen in both cultic and charismatic movements. The speakers emphasize the importance of biblical literacy and historical theology in understanding these deviations, cautioning against following leaders who prioritize personal experience over scripture. Cynthia’s anecdotes provide a first-hand perspective on the Vineyard movement’s musical and spiritual practices, while the host, John Collins, links these observations to broader patterns of control and deception in modern Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, specifically within groups that emerged from the Latter Rain Revival.
00:00 Introduction
00:31 Guest Introduction: Cynthia and Her Connection to John Wimber
01:47 Evolution of Research into Branhamism and IHOP
03:35 Investigating John Wimber’s Influence and the IHOP Connection
05:04 Cynthia’s Background in the Vineyard and Fuller Seminary
07:13 Reflections on Music, Entertainment, and Spiritual Manipulation
10:03 John Wimber’s Teachings and Emotional Manipulation in Worship
12:08 Balancing Emotionalism with Scriptural Faithfulness
14:48 Historical Context: Lonnie Frisbee and the Vineyard Movement
18:04 The Sin of Presumption and the Danger of Wimber’s Teachings
20:40 The Evolution of Kingdom Theology and Dominionism
22:16 Teaching curriculum
21:28 Peter Wagner, Fuller Professor Church Growth
22:28 Franchising Religion
24:58 John Wimber’s Focus on “Doing the Works of the Kingdom”
27:26 Distinctions Between True Christianity and Cultic Movements
30:42 Indoctrination and Variance Between Teachings and Scriptu
https://william-branham.org/site/research/people/john_wimber
Support the show:
https://www.patreon.com/branham
Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts:
https://william-branham.org/podcast
Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:
Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962
Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K
Cynthia's Website:
https://cynthiaartish.com/
John invites Cynthia Artish to kick off a new series on "Charismania," starting with the research into John Wimber and his influence on Charismatic Christianity. We dive into the intersections between William Branham's religious movement and its influence on other groups like the International House of Prayer (IHOP) and John Wimber's role in shaping modern charismatic movements. Cynthia shares her personal experiences as a musician playing for John Wimber's band, offering insight into Wimber’s character and the cult of personality that developed around him. The conversation explores key themes such as indoctrination, manipulation of emotions in religious settings, and the blending of church and business models in evangelicalism. We also critically analyze how Wimber's theology influenced contemporary movements like the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), pointing to dangerous deviations from traditional Christian teaching.
Another major point of discussion is the emotional manipulation tactics often seen in both cultic and charismatic movements. The speakers emphasize the importance of biblical literacy and historical theology in understanding these deviations, cautioning against following leaders who prioritize personal experience over scripture. Cynthia’s anecdotes provide a first-hand perspective on the Vineyard movement’s musical and spiritual practices, while the host, John Collins, links these observations to broader patterns of control and deception in modern Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, specifically within groups that emerged from the Latter Rain Revival.
00:00 Introduction
00:31 Guest Introduction: Cynthia and Her Connection to John Wimber
01:47 Evolution of Research into Branhamism and IHOP
03:35 Investigating John Wimber’s Influence and the IHOP Connection
05:04 Cynthia’s Background in the Vineyard and Fuller Seminary
07:13 Reflections on Music, Entertainment, and Spiritual Manipulation
10:03 John Wimber’s Teachings and Emotional Manipulation in Worship
12:08 Balancing Emotionalism with Scriptural Faithfulness
14:48 Historical Context: Lonnie Frisbee and the Vineyard Movement
18:04 The Sin of Presumption and the Danger of Wimber’s Teachings
20:40 The Evolution of Kingdom Theology and Dominionism
22:16 Teaching curriculum
21:28 Peter Wagner, Fuller Professor Church Growth
22:28 Franchising Religion
24:58 John Wimber’s Focus on “Doing the Works of the Kingdom”
27:26 Distinctions Between True Christianity and Cultic Movements
30:42 Indoctrination and Variance Between Teachings and Scriptu
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